In the daytime people usually have other stuff going on, running errands, doing meetings, working, or studying. However, at night, girls are more relaxed and flexible in how they spend their time. Thus it makes sense that in the daytime (during daygame) you would ask a woman’s phone number to keep in touch. On the other hand, at night if a girl blows you off while she’s dancing in a nightclub, or would rather give you her number instead of using the opportunity at hand to get to know you, then you gotta think for a moment what this means. She’s not interested enough.
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Taking her Number at Night
At night, in a clubbing or bar/pub environment, don’t bother with phone numbers. Instead, these places are made for socializing, make-outs and pulling. Girls here are in a party vibe and environment where they are drinking. The next day they won’t even remember who exactly they gave their numbers out to. And often they end up going home with a different guy – the guy who didn’t even want her number. Thus why even bother with her number? She’d find a way to let you know if she wants to really see you again. She’d either make-out with you, or she’d ask if you want her number. If she offers her number on her own initiative, then it’s on. She really wants to see you again.
As a test for the girl, I sometimes wait until the last moment before I even contemplate asking her number. For example, I spent one to two hours with a girl in a nightclub. The pull wasn’t on due to bad logistics and time constraints. But I hold my frame, and right before I get into my car, the girl asks me if I don’t want her number. Exactly what I was hoping she’d ask. I want her to bring up the phone number (and not me). Because then I am 99% certain that it is a solid number.
The second example: I meet a girl at a bar. We only talk and vibe for 20 minutes, but her friends are leaving to somewhere else. She’s committed to staying with her friends that night. The bar is in a rough area of Cape Town (Long Street), thus somewhat dangerous for a female on her own. Furthermore, she’s a foreigner working temporarily in Cape Town, so she’s extra careful, and not yet sure what is safe in Cape Town and what isn’t. So when she leaves the bar, she says “hey take my number … make sure you call or text me!”. This is what you want to hear at night. Needless to say, it was a solid number.
Find out if it’s on
In all interactions with women, it’s up to you to immediately find out if she sees you as a potential sexual partner or only a friend. The way to find out is to either tell her directly, you find her hot, and you want to date her, kiss her, or whatever else you wanna do to her. Or otherwise, you can escalate with her physically, by standing closer to her while you’re talking, holding her hand, or putting your hand on her shoulder or back. And then eventually going in for a make-out. But getting her number doesn’t mean anything. She may do it as an “in the moment” thing. Or even worse, sometimes simply to get rid of you if she isn’t interested in talking further and doesn’t know how to turn you down verbally. In this case, she may also give you the wrong number.
Exceptions to the Rule
There are always exceptions to everything. For example, in traditional environments where there are no flashing lights and loud noise. Although you could still go for the make-out (with the right calibration beforehand obviously), here the girl may give you a more solid number-close. Examples of toned down environments are a) social club gatherings, b) traditional dancing, c) social meetups, and d) conservative get-togethers.
To give you a practical example of an exception to the rule in a nightclub, read the field report at the bottom half of my Arequipa Seduction Guide. Here’s why I still asked her number in the club: (a) I couldn’t take her to my hostel (strict “no guests” policy) (b) We had a really good vibe together, (c) We were making out, and (d) Our behavior was already congruent with that of a couple – by sticking together for a couple of hours in the club.
Lastly, in different countries, you’ll notice women respond differently to divergent types of game. In one place, your number closing attempt at night will be a waste of time. While in other countries or seduction locations it can bear more fruit. So while traveling, keep a reasonably open mind.
Nightgame Challenge
I wouldn’t do this every night, but as a challenge to help you shift your mindset from number-closing to pulls and make-outs: Go out clubbing while leaving your cell phone at home. Stay present to the moment. Enjoy the night, while bringing a fun, playful vibe to every interaction. Then “go for the girl” instead of going for her number. Another reason for this challenge is because a typical characteristic of an AFC (Average Frustrated Chump) is that they’re number-closing obsessed in nightclubs. While the experienced guys know that there’s much more to game than only accumulating phone numbers at night.
What’s your view on number-closing at night? Is it good all the time or do you go for the pull instead? Comment below your tips, thoughts or questions!